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David Matthewman ([personal profile] djm4) wrote2010-11-24 18:53
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Breaking pledges

I'm getting increasingly frustrated with Nick Clegg's statements on tuition fees (and that starts from a fairly high level of frustration with him for singling them out as one of our long-term policies that might have to go in 2009).

Look, the point is not that the Lib Dem manifesto said that we'd phase tuition fees out. Everyone understands that we didn't win the election, so aren't in a position to implement everything in the manifesto. What we compromise about - and whether we compromise at all or just stay out of government - is up for debate, of course, but it's not a betrayal of principles to fail to implement a manifesto commitment if you lose an election.

No, the point is this pledge that Nick Clegg and all other Lib Dem MPs signed back in February. This is what it says:

"I pledge to vote against any increase in fees in the next parliament and to pressure the government to introduce a fairer alternative."

Here's the problem: nothing in that pledge becomes impossible just because we lost the election. Nick's still an MP, he still gets a vote, and that vote can still be against an increase in tuition fees.

Yes, I understand that Nick Clegg now doesn't want to. I get that he now thinks that the Browne Report offers a progressive fairness premium or something - I'm sorry, I'm losing track of the jargon these days. I also understand that under the terms of the coalition agreement, MPs agreed to abstain at worst on tuition fee rises (that was noted at the time as being a hostage to fortune, but with everything that was going on then, I can genuinely forgive that slip up). But Nick Clegg's not even going to abstain, apparently; he's going to vote in favour.

A pledge, though, is a pledge. It's a serious commitment that should not be lightly broken, and people will be quite reasonably angry with you when you do. Menzies Campbell understands this. Vince Cable appears not to. It might be seen to be OK to break a pledge if unforeseeable circumstances made keeping the pledge impossible, but it's not OK to break it because it's now politically inconvenient.

And it's really not OK to act as though the pledge were a manifesto commitment that the Lib Dems could only stick to if we won a majority government. It was a pledge to vote against a policy, not a pledge to ensure the policy didn't get passed. Nick, Vince and the rest can still vote against the policy and, IMO, should. Alternatively, they can 'fess up to voluntarily going back on the pledge, and plead changed circumstances; it'll still make people angry, but it's better than falsely claiming that being in a coalition now makes the pledge impossible to keep.

And all MPs should probably be a lot more careful about making pledges that they don't really mean. They might get called on them one day.
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[personal profile] almadsfeika 2010-11-25 15:25 (UTC)(link)
That makes a lot of sense. As a party, lib dems have a higher percentage of 'human beings' within the party than any other major local political party in my experience. This is the south-east of England so I don't know much about parties in, say, Northern Ireland. I've met some awesome LGBT Tories although very few, some reasonable Tories, some Labour lackeys/ supporters and the odd labour councillor. The greens tend to function more as an alternative to a spoiled ballot in my area - don't feel like making a difference? Vote green or independent. Sad but true here.
The really annoying thing about politics is that there can be a gulf between the ideas/ ideals/ beliefs of the party and those of the individual politicians - what they will do to get ahead.
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[personal profile] pseudomonas 2010-11-25 15:33 (UTC)(link)
Hopefully Greens and Independents will have more of a chance if and when we get a preferential system of voting. Re: individual politicians, I certainly have a lot of confidence in my (Lib Dem) MP, who is (as far as one can tell so far) principled and doesn't seem too scared of pushing the government when he disagrees with it.
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[personal profile] almadsfeika 2010-11-25 17:02 (UTC)(link)
My local lib Dem councillors are either idiotic, famous & cabinet-like, or both simultaneously... I think it can be a matter of attitudes as well as faults in the voting system. It'd be nice to see a proper better system for voting.
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[identity profile] andrewhickey.info 2010-11-25 20:10 (UTC)(link)
This is why (generally, with some very noticeable exceptions) Lib Dem MPs tend to be nicer people than Labour or Tory MPs. I don't think anyone ever joined the Lib Dems in the expectation of getting any kind of power nationally - if you want to become Prime Minister, you join Labour or the Tories. Councillors are a different matter, because of course we're in power in many local authorities.